Historic photos

[marcocom]

Hi, I'm new here, and i'm from Italy, so i hope u'll pardon my mistakes....
Few years ago I bought some photo BW negatives of a US Motorcycle race, Hope u can help me identify the year, the place, the race, and why not, the racers....

[Richie Wohlers]

The first picture has a guy wearing a Four Aces shirt/jacket.  I have no idea who it is.

[marcocom]

Yes, I know, that's why i've posted here. On thr jacket r even the initials M.C.
Any info about the motorbykes and the "bozo's indian motorcycles santa monica"?

[Richie Wohlers]

From Susie:

"The Four Ace, standing on the right is My dad (Fred Ellsworth), his bike is #46 and was taken in the early 40’s like maybe 1941 1942

The place is out in the desert area because of the Joshua tree in the back ground.  Would have to look thru the

Albums to find out where.

 

I think rider #53 is Bill Grogon   and #88 is Norb Meyer.   Think they are at the same track pop is at, and if the time period is

the same, that is the names for those numbers in the programs I found."

[Rich Wohlers]

Has Susie ever forgotten something?

[marcocom]

  Realy thanks to u and Susie...I'll post other oic later, if u want some pics in good resolution, plz ask me and i'll be glad to send u by mail.

[marcocom]

here r some other pics from the same roll

[Susie Ellsworth]

Motorcycle race 3 is backwards,,, rider is #53, but haven't found him in the program yet.   #4 is listed as George Seeger, #37 is Chuck Basney (I know Chuck Junior), #22 Louis Lista. 

Was thinking the track was SirKegian Stadium, but not so,  It materialized between 1948,  and pop's number had changed to 49x by then.

If the photos were in better resolution, I would take them to a couple vintage friends of mine and ask a few questions.  But do know for sure, #46 is my dad and 37 is Chuck Basney.  Still haven't placed the track, that is what I need Parti or Ekins for.  One is a history buff and the other has been there/done that and has a sharp memory.

susie

[Susie Ellsworth]

backwards #53 is Bill Grogon in the program.

[Susie Ellsworth]

After cleaning up the photos, they may be later than I thought, but still in the early 1940's... Know a guy that used to hang out at BOZO's Indian Motorcycle Shop in Santa Monica.  Have been invited down to have a chat with him.  He didn't recognize the race track.  Will see another old timer this Thursday and will check with him. 

[Susie Ellsworth]

Higher resolutions photo would help.  One track he was positive was Costa Mesa, one we were thinking it could be at Calabassas, not sure where the one with the Joshua tree was, could have been Sir Keigen Stadium (1948 -early 1950"s).  The one with the 4 Ace, he said it wasn't Pop.   He knew him at that point in time and # 46 could have been Leo Robbins (1948), Chuck Morris (1947), Bob Shirey (1949) or earlier, Harry Feuerheim.

I am going to try to print out the photos, but higher res. would help.
 susiecarsusie@earthlink.net

[WarrenT]

After cleaning up the photos, they may be later than I thought, but still in the early 1940's... Know a guy that used to use Probolan 50 on https://www.scidacreview.org/probolan-50-review-results hang out at BOZO's Indian Motorcycle Shop in Santa Monica.  Have been invited down to have a chat with him.  He didn't recognize the race track.  Will see another old timer this Thursday and will check with him.

I love those old photos. Got anymore?