It was great to see so many riders/guest pitters this weekend. Even an appearance from Cory Brown good to see you back racing....
Quote from: Bartman on February 25, 2013, 09:04:05 AM
It was great to see so many riders/guest pitters this weekend. Even an appearance from Cory Brown good to see you back racing....
CORY BROWN... REALLY!!!!! :o
WOW Cory I thought you just did MX... Glad to hear your racing again....
Yeah, Corey was out there, he didn't pit with us.
Pit Report: Bob Houser held down the pits along with help from his wife, and I think the wife/girfriend of one of our guests.
We had 14 riders on the pit sheet, including 7 guests.
Four Aces:
Scott H - finished
Snowman - DNF Radiator problem?
Richie - Finished
Kent - Finished
Ken - Finished
Phil - Finished 1 loop
Eddie - Finished 1 loop
Guests:
Sergio - finished 1 loop. Learned a lesson about stopping for water AT a check.
Don Shapen
Then I think there were 5 guests, some of which are friends of Snowman. Not sure who they all were. One of them was a novice who did really well.
Quote from: Richie Wohlers on February 25, 2013, 09:24:37 AM
Pit Report: Bob Houser held down the pits along with help from his wife, and I think the wife/girfriend of one of our guests.
We had 14 riders on the pit sheet, including 7 guests.
Four Aces:
Scott H - finished
Snowman - DNF Radiator problem?
Richie - Finished
Kent - Finished
Ken - Finished
Phil - Finished 1 loop
Eddie - Finished 1 loop
Guests:
Sergio - finished 1 loop. Learned a lesson about stopping for water AT a check.
Don Shapen
Then I think there were 5 guests, some of which are friends of Snowman. Not sure who they all were. One of them was a novice who did really well.
Does his bike look like a 1st grader tried to color it ;D.... I think it's funny how on the MB they say, we had other people working checks they may have done the coloring....
Hmmmmm I thought the Checkers didn't NEED HELP to put on a race.......
It's VERY HARD not to ask that JACKASS who bagged us and JR how his BOOT taste :-X. But everyone else seems to be doing it, so we can just sit back and SMILE ;D....
Quote from: Just 4 Fun on February 25, 2013, 10:58:54 AM
Quote from: Richie Wohlers on February 25, 2013, 09:24:37 AM
Pit Report: Bob Houser held down the pits along with help from his wife, and I think the wife/girfriend of one of our guests.
We had 14 riders on the pit sheet, including 7 guests.
Four Aces:
Scott H - finished
Snowman - DNF Radiator problem?
Richie - Finished
Kent - Finished
Ken - Finished
Phil - Finished 1 loop
Eddie - Finished 1 loop
Guests:
Sergio - finished 1 loop. Learned a lesson about stopping for water AT a check.
Don Shapen
Then I think there were 5 guests, some of which are friends of Snowman. Not sure who they all were. One of them was a novice who did really well.
Does his bike look like a 1st grader tried to color it ;D
Yep. They got all 3 plates good.
Well my race went okay, screwed up my loop plan and ended up on the 3rd loop first. I knew the first ten or so miles I would be fighting arm pump so I didn't want to go through really tech stuff, but sure enough there I go through all the hard stuff riding like a squid >:( After that I was kind of worn out, my chain derailed once so I had to stop for that and I had a little trouble on a couple of the up hills.
I was, just like many others, a little disappointed in the first loop. I still enjoyed it, but there's way more jv has to offer out there.
Overall I'm a little disappointed with my results, but I learned a lot, got a sweet coffee cup, and I'll be out there next time more ready than ever 8)
I moved this to the public forum, in case any of the guests want to get some info.
Looks like "Nick" was one of our guest pitters. Welcome, Nick!
Richie, thanks for moving this so I could comment. Nick Halliman was indeed one of our guest pitters, and I’d like to thank his son Lance and Lance’s girlfriend Marissa for their help in the pit. It would have been impossible for Donna and I to do all the pit work while also keeping track of 14 riders doing the 3 loops in various orders, without Lance and Marissa’s help as spotters and recorders. They were on their feet all day keeping track of riders for us. Don’t think we lost anyone!
Bob Houser
First ...I wanna say thank you Bob for all the work at the pits.....
second....I learned my lesson "never stop at the race " just if some rider need help....damn the kids,they tag me really good. >:(...looks like kinder garden toy....but well I finished the race just 1 loop hopefully this year I can do the all race....
Thanks everybody for the support .... 8)...see ya at HBMC.. With some cervezas....
And Don good job helping others riders.....
Scotty why do they have you as a DNF?
Quote from: Just 4 Fun on February 28, 2013, 09:18:08 AM
Scotty why do they have you as a DNF?
I think he was just being nice so the rest of us could finish in front of him ;D Darn Kid is getting fast! From my discussion with Steve Williams several of the DNF's who started on Loop 3 missed the first check. About 4 miles in after the first big downhill there was a 90 degree turn before a hill climb (Check was on top of the hill) and several people blew through chasing each other (dust) and when they finally found ribbon again it was to late.
Quote from: Bartman on February 28, 2013, 10:26:11 AM
Quote from: Just 4 Fun on February 28, 2013, 09:18:08 AM
Scotty why do they have you as a DNF?
I think he was just being nice so the rest of us could finish in front of him ;D Darn Kid is getting fast! From my discussion with Steve Williams several of the DNF's who started on Loop 3 missed the first check. About 4 miles in after the first big downhill there was a 90 degree turn before a hill climb (Check was on top of the hill) and several people blew through chasing each other (dust) and when they finally found ribbon again it was to late.
Yeah, he is listed as a DQ: http://district37ama.org/forums/showthread.php?p=685336#post685336
Hopefully enough people protest this... Total bs.
Quote from: bleedBLUE-Scott on February 28, 2013, 07:24:37 PM
Hopefully enough people protest this... Total bs.
If you believe this was an error, you will need to file a protest yourself. They most likely will not do a "class action" protest.
I'm talking to the race ref tomorrow as he stopped responding to my emails. Would this go under the administrative protest? Along with the 50 dollar fee?
Yeah, step one is to talk to the referee and make sure he just didn't make an error in DQing you. (Which it sounds like you have already done.)
If you are not satisfied, then you would file a protest with the D37 referee (Joe Bianchi). This would be item "e." of the protest section in the D37 rulebook - protesting the "mailed" results.
In my opinion, your chances of winning would be slim. But I have seen the Competition Committee uphold protests that I thought were unwinnable in the past. They tend to be a bit sympathetic to riders (as opposed to clubs).
That's what I thought... Is there an official d37 protest form that I send to joe or do I send him the form straight from the ama?
Thanks for all your help Richie :)
Quote from: bleedBLUE-Scott on February 28, 2013, 11:17:20 PM
That's what I thought... Is there an official d37 protest form that I send to joe or do I send him the form straight from the ama?
There is no form.
I would just recommend a basic letter addressed to the D37 referee.
Just a brief description like: "I am Scott Houser, and I am protesting my disqualification at the Checkers race on Feb 22, 2013.
I believe poor course markings caused me and many other riders to miss a check on loop 3. blah blah blah
Please let me know when the Competition Committee will be able to hear my protest."
etc.
Just keep it simple. The letter doesn't really have anything to do with your actual protest, except to register the protest. Then, you will have to attend the Competition Committee in Brea (either 2nd Thursday of March or 2nd Thursday of April). If you are unable to attend, you would want to write a more thorough letter, because that would be your only evidence. (People who don't attend the protests rarely win.)
Gotcha, thanks!
Damn Scooter, go get'em!
Quote from: ScottsDad on February 26, 2013, 05:42:31 PM
Richie, thanks for moving this so I could comment. Nick Halliman was indeed one of our guest pitters, and I’d like to thank his son Lance and Lance’s girlfriend Marissa for their help in the pit. It would have been impossible for Donna and I to do all the pit work while also keeping track of 14 riders doing the 3 loops in various orders, without Lance and Marissa’s help as spotters and recorders. They were on their feet all day keeping track of riders for us. Don’t think we lost anyone!
Bob Houser
I am sorry it has taken me so long to get on the board. My son and his girlfriend had a great time at checkers. They wanted to go to HBMC but they both had previous plans.
Bob, I will pass your words to my son and Marissa. :)